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Recently, I gave an interview on the Women’s Radio Network, and I need to share that experience with you in case you’ve been approached. It’s important.
I’m an author of Contemporary Women’s Fiction. I’d also like to think I’m a somewhat savvy business woman. In fact, I write about somewhat savvy business women. So what better way to reach my customer base than through an organization with a name like “Women’s Radio Network”? Or so I thought… On February 6, 2015, I received the following Direct Messages on Twitter: Thanks for the follow! Please let us know if you want to be a guest on one of our shows. I said sure. They responded: Great! Please fill out our online form http://www.wrnw1.com/go-air/ and mention code "SH-SM" in the "Where did you hear about us?" section. I become curious and a little excited about the opportunity, so a few days later I click the link and have a look around. I hit the “Listen Live Now” button, and what I hear sounds very encouraging. The site also looks very professional, so I fill in the form. Within the hour, I receive a call. A woman confirms the information that I’ve submitted and connects me to a producer. He again confirms my info and tells me I can choose either Thursday or Friday. (It’s Tuesday) A little freaked, I pick Friday. He tells me I’ll receive an email with a questionnaire attached and that I’ll be interviewed by Lisa Singer on “Open Forum”. He then assures me I’ll be called and completely prepped prior to the interview, so I’ll know exactly what to expect. I download the form and carefully consider which information I should provide—the details readers might want to know about my novel and myself. Also attached to this email is the interview announcement with link. I post it liberally on my webpage and all my social media sites, and ask my friends and followers to share, post, pin, and retweet. I am an advertising fool! Friday morning, I’ve heard nothing more from the station. I am getting anxious. I’ve never done a radio interview before and have no idea what to expect. Further, by this time, I’ve encouraged at least 5000 people to check out the show, and I sure don’t want to come off seeming unprofessional. I finally get the call. It lasts maybe 30 seconds. I do not feel prepped and assured. A few minutes before my slotted time, the phone rings. The woman says she’s connecting me with DJ, Lisa Singer. Lisa comes on and we introduce ourselves. The next thing I know, someone says, “3,2,1, and we’re live.” Lisa and I do the interview. I feel pretty good about it once we’ve finished. I hop onto Facebook and do a cyber happy dance. The DJ calls me about 10 minutes later and offers some useful, constructive criticism which I gladly accept. She says she’s checked out my website and recites a few snippets from it. I hang up thinking it was very nice of her to follow up, very above and beyond. About 20 minutes later... I get a call from someone who identifies herself as a Producer. She is absolutely beside herself and tells me that every interview is rated, and based on overwhelming listener response, I got a 6.1, which she then informs me is off the charts. Moreover, they (?) took a vote and decided they want me to do another interview, but this time with K.C. Armstrong of Howard Stern fame. Plus, because of my performance, they want to promote me. I’m thrilled. It’s like I’ve just become a finalist on American Idol. Yes America, I’ve got talent! Publisher’s Clearing House is knocking on my front door right now! This producer further extols my virtues, and then tells me what the Women’s Radio Network is prepared to do for me. My stellar interview will be replayed 10-15 times per day for the next 30 days. She says a lot of other wonderful sounding things in such rapid fire that I barely have time to write them all down. They have some sort of relationship with ABC and Beasley and CBS radio and I’ll be advertised with CNN, New York Times (I’m an author, so I’m all over that one!) and she rattles off a list of other important sounding and amazing stuff including press releases. She then invokes the holy names of Hillary Clinton and Oprah and says celebrities contact them all the time to be on the show—not because they need advertising, of course, but because it’s for women and they support what the Women’s Radio Network is all about. My head is swimming and I don’t have time to think straight because the woman is talking 90 miles per hour. Then she uses the word “membership” and that they (again, I have no idea who “they” are) have unanimously voted to give me “professional status”. That’s when my Spider-sense kicks in. Memberships typically cost money, and “Professional status” sounds like a casino term. My gigantic balloon begins deflating, and I notice she’s becoming very repetitive. Also, “they” have taken several more votes. Is Simon involved? I suddenly realize I’m hearing quite a bit of chatter in the background, but when I inquire, “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” is the general message I receive. Then the bomb detonates: Advertising is super expensive on all these fabulous domains, of course. People pay tens of thousands of dollars for such widespread coverage. BUT because I am so amazing and wonderful and awe-inspiring and the second coming of Janus Joplin, they’ve taken a vote and decided to cover most of the cost. They offer me (3) 30-minute sessions with K.C. Armstrong, plus all the kinds of advertising vaguely mentioned before, all for the low, low price of only $3,000 US. I will even get a plaque. A plaque? Visions of Orlando timeshares stream before my eyes. Whoa, that’s a lot of money, I say. She replies that for $1700 I can have a two-show package, or for $1,200, a one segment deal. Of course, I won’t’ get as much with only the one segment, but for just this one time, they’ll include all that. My timeshare vision is replaced by one of me staring at the car wash sign, trying to decide between the whale wash, the dolphin wash, or the minnow wash. I don’t immediately press any of the buttons, so she launches into the But wait! There’s more! Because of my rock star awesomeness, they’ll let me have the one show gig for only $1,000. I feel better already, and I didn’t even have to throw a fit and pretend to storm out of the car dealership showroom. I ask for an email outlining the proposal so I can mull it over. This is radio and they don’t do that, she explains, but once my session is booked, I’ll get all of it in writing. Hmm...So once I pay you $1000, then you’ll send me an email? Fascinating. She again repeats what’s become her mantra: Give the Women’s Radio Network 1% of your faith, and we’ll do the rest. I say I need time to think and I’ll have to call her back. She then informs me this is a pilot program and prices are subject to change. After ending the call, I pull out my Google Ouija board and look up the Women’s Radio Network reviews. There’s very little information. What I do find is one glaring red flag: A Blog entitled, Spotlight Radio Scam, by Heather Goff. The link is provided below. In her blog, Heather explains that she knew she’d interviewed horribly, with lots of ums and long gapes of silence, but soon afterwards, a “producer” called her, falling all over himself about how well she did and how she ranked a 6.7 and that she was made for radio, and yep—exactly what my producer said to me—except, that Heather is clearly a better public speaker than I, what with that 6.7 and all. I read the blog’s posted comments—same story right down the line. Since Heather’s radio program was called “Spotlight” and she’d written her blog a year ago, I went back and listened to a couple of the recently archived segments of the Lisa Singer “Open Forum” show on WRNW1…and then I reached out. And guess what? The lovely videographer in Florida with whom I spoke got the whale wash, too. She expressed disappointment; not because she wasn’t the mega superstar she’d thought, but rather because her main goal in going on the show was to assist other women and to support a group willing to give free airtime to those hoping to grow their small businesses. I thought about her altruistic intentions and realized that I could do something altruistic as well. I could speak up and share my experience; help others become better informed. The positive side of my 8 minutes of fame: The initial interview itself cost me nothing, I got to experience live radio interviewing, and I know for a fact that I reached at least one person--thanks mom! I also learned a few valuable business lessons. And maybe…just maybe…I am a somewhat savvy business woman, after all. I wish you the greatest success in your business endeavors, but please swim carefully. Sure, there are whales and dolphins and lots of minnows swimming in the ocean, but there are a few sharks as well. ![]() ~Virginia Gray, author of “The Carrot” Heather Goff’s link: http://goffgrafix.com/blog/2014/03/spotlite-radio-scam/ *The previous information was relayed from my memory of approximately 24 hours post-event. Dollar amounts, specific details, and ranking numbers were taken directly from my personal handwritten notes during said phone conversations occurring on February 13, 2015.
34 Comments
2/20/2015 02:19:28 am
This is an important post that people need to read. I shared it on Facebook and Tweeted it.
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11/11/2016 02:25:57 pm
Women's Radio Network seems to now be called Professionals Radio Network.
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Lori
2/20/2015 02:48:07 am
So, they dangled The Carrot in front of you and the answer was no :))
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Ingrid
3/17/2015 08:16:40 am
Hi,
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Michelle
3/18/2015 02:12:04 am
Thank you. They called me yesterday and I was in the middle of something and didn't have time to google search Women's Radio Network and Scam while on the phone. I did hear the call center in the background which was a red flag, but since I have worked in TV around talk shows and Judge shows, that is normal for a pod of booking producers. So I accepted. When they call back I am going to remove myself from the charade because I asked the producer and the scheduler about 10 times if this was going to cost me anything and the answer was no. If they had been upfront about it the one time being free and then you can buy more time slots, I would still do it the one time because I can say no to just about any sales pitch. But I don't like the bait and switch tactic, it preys on ego and desperation. Such a shame.
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Thank you for your post. I had a voice mail to call them and decided to do some research before hand. I found your post and Heather's post and have decided not to return their call.
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Amazing! I too took advantage of the free on line interview to (what I thought) educate buyers and sellers of real estate. I did not hear my interview and I do not know how well I may or may not have done. I received a call from a very abrupt male who said he was unable to hear me from my phone and inquired if I had him on speaker. I admitted I did. He told me to call him back when I had time to talk and not put him on speaker. I answer all my calls on speaker. No one is in my office but me. I never called him back and I have not heard anymore from anyone. Thank you for your blog.
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Dianna
4/10/2015 08:26:07 am
They called me today. I set up the time, and after I hung up I googled them. I couldn't imagine why someone would want to interview an 8th grade English teacher.
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Cynthia Tolbert
4/27/2015 09:21:29 am
This is really sad that these people are out there scamming women.
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Beda
4/30/2015 03:43:15 am
Thanks for the awareness. Just in time before a scheduled interview. This seems to be another fake such as "Who is Who".
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Sonia Bortolin
5/11/2015 08:29:03 am
The same thing happend to me. Except I realize what it was and cancelled the interview within 24 hours of getting their call. I was assured I would get a refund and 5 months later I am still waiting. I spoke to Michael Storch who is supposed to be in charge of accounting and he has promised numerous times the check was in the mail but it never arrive. Clearly they are a fraud and scam. I will file a complaint with the Attorney General. I guess if enough people do it they will stop.
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JENNIFER myers KIRTON
5/13/2015 04:42:45 am
I APPRECIATE SEEING YOUR EXPERIENCE THEY CONTACTED ME THIS MORNING AND I WAS LEARY AS I GOT DONE IN BY SPOTLITE
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5/20/2015 10:04:23 am
Thank you Virginia,
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6/2/2015 10:13:03 am
I really appreciate the heads up in advance. They called me today for my 8 minutes of fame, directly. Convinced me that it was free, that I was somebody whose opinions mattered. Ha! Anyway, the problem is that my interview is scheduled to take place on my mom's birthday. Yeah. Can I afford to turn that down? I don't think so. The Carrot, eh? I'm outlining a novel myself, GEOMAGNETIC. I hope to be done with a first draft by the end of 2016. Good luck. And thanks.
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6/17/2015 03:29:53 am
Thanks for sharing this article. I applied for a Sales job with them, and was recently contacted for an interview. Given this expose, as well as others' comments, there is no way that I want to be part of an organization like this. Thank you for saving me some valuable time.
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7/1/2015 07:38:16 am
Thanks for the warning. It went exactly as you said it would. They even got a little testy when I told them I would have to get approval to spend any money which I wasn't going to anyway.
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8/13/2015 04:25:24 pm
I just did an interview and got a 'great' score of 5.2 which hardly ever happens! Hahaha! They then wanted to sell me three half hour interviews which they would air and a commercial for my book (which I haven't finished yet called 'Inside the Mind, of those with Social Communication Disorder, Asperger's, Autism and ADD.) They pushed to get me to buy at least one slot now and the other two when I got the book finished. It's all a PR sales job and I doubt that my eight minutes of fame actually aired.
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Wow. Suzanne!
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Sandi
8/19/2015 10:47:42 am
You all saved me a lot of time and aggravation... and at least I know I am not the only intelligent business woman to be taken in by this. I just made an appointment to be interviewed, and yes, I was about to do the internet post happy dance when I saw this conversation and realized this was a scam. I kept asking them if this was going to "eventually" cost money and I was told know.. Hmmm... Thank you all for saving my time!
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well... is just did the 8 min interview and received the afterwards 90 miles and hour phone call. I forgot about my interview today and did not do my research before. I am a business owner and it sounded good, actually too good. My warning system set in early as Scott Collins WRNW was way too excited about my rating and how many people listen in my area, really?? He had no clue where I live. He hung up as soon as I said that it is sad that you take advantage of women in bushiness.
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Tammy
9/28/2015 05:34:29 pm
Oh boy! I can hardly wait for my on air interview. Y'all Be listening Monday 10/5 at 10:48. :-))
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Thank you all for helping me to avert disaster. My heart knew this was a scam, but I am so anxious to publicize my new book that I was weak and gave them a credit card to charge $1000 for 2 30 minute interviews when they called shortly after my free 8 minute interview. We are all working so hard to help others and get the word out about our work that even smart women can make silly mistakes. I called my credit card company and stopped the charge immediately. Of course I now have a new card number and all the inconvenience that entails, but at least I won't lose a $1000. Without all your comments, I would not have acted to quickly so thanks to all of you for sparing me heartache and financial hardship.
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Pete
6/2/2016 03:28:48 am
Laurie, I'm sorry you gave them your CC info. They have no listeners. Please contact your CC company and cancel payment and site fraud.
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Amazing to read all these blogs about Wrnw1. It is a major scam, unfortunately, after the initial free "stellar interview" we got roped into giving cc info for the wonderful $1000 interviews two 30 minutes plus "major press release" . it was a hard sell by Scott relentless hunter of a gentle soft spoken mystic poet, wanting to believe the promise of fame..... He quickly realized that it was not a good thing and a scam, cancelled the interview but never received credit and refund. Many calls stayed unanswered, no one available etc will call back but never do, lying to American express about the charges in dispute and the fact the interview never took place. At this time the charge is labeled fraudulent with the CC company and I will file a consumer report also. I would like to have this company shut down. their affiliate is WBG consulting collecting the money. please spread the word and CAUTION
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suzanne morris
11/17/2015 09:11:23 am
Good for you for going after your money and filing a consumer report! I hope everyone does this who lost money! They need to be shut down! I turned them down earlier in the year after checking and finding this website.
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I just got The WRN phone call......Went right to my computer to google them while they gave me the BS...Once he took a breath I replied, "While you were talking I googled your radio station" and the first thing that pops up is Women's Radio Network, SCAM. His reply, Okay bye bye now! Thank you all for posting your experience and not being Wowed by opportunities that are to good to be true.
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Lisa
11/17/2015 12:39:17 pm
Has anyone contacted KC Armstrong who is currently on the WRN radio
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8/10/2016 11:59:48 am
Thank you for your blog! It was good information and sounds like they are continuing the sales pitch under PRN FM Professionals Radio Network. I have my 8 minute interview coming up Friday ... lol ... I knew there would be some sort of catch. Just wasn't sure how it would play out.
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This is very interesting. I was approached by KC Armstrong to be interviewed on his WMAPradio.com which stands for "world's most amazing people." I must be the same thing? They said I could have a free 10 minute interview, but then there are packages after that. Do you think the 8 minutes of your interview was worth anything? I mean are there really any listeners out there?
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Jim K
7/16/2017 07:07:15 am
UPDATE FOR 7/16/17: It looks like the company split (or has a split personality) and is doing double time as "Empire Radio now" *AND* WMAPradio.com (World's Most Amazing People). K.C. Armstrong from the Howard Stern show is on the WMAPradio.com section. empireradionow.com 's website looks professionally done, and has all sorts of legal disclaimers and qualifies it as a "service" with a "48 hour refund policy". K.C.'s WMAPradio.com looks like something a child did on their ipad.
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Melissa M
6/10/2019 09:17:21 pm
UPDATE for June 2019. These people are still at it. They are now calling themselves National Broadcast Radio FM. Same exact MO.
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